tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2086522799678977282.post6403083703635897188..comments2023-12-26T08:22:44.107-05:00Comments on The Second Awakening: Monday Media Watch: Oh NYT, You've Done It AgainC. L. Minouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249398357159535411noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2086522799678977282.post-86578225203169029192009-09-17T08:27:46.232-04:002009-09-17T08:27:46.232-04:00And of course when I re-pressed post after it said...And of course when I re-pressed post after it said I couldn't it did with my name!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2086522799678977282.post-50393555659828901062009-09-17T08:26:37.985-04:002009-09-17T08:26:37.985-04:00"Well, the things is, those are interesting q..."Well, the things is, those are interesting questions! I say this because I started asking myself those questions after I made some F2F trans friends as well as from reading your blog. My identity as a woman was always such a given that I never thought about it much until then"<br /><br />Me too! And your second comment expands on your first and I appreciate it. Learning by the day here.<br /><br />earwicga ("apparently my OpenID credentials could not be verified"?!?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2086522799678977282.post-64506473402171373532009-09-15T02:15:37.297-04:002009-09-15T02:15:37.297-04:00P.S.
I wish there were an "edit comment"...P.S.<br /><br />I wish there were an "edit comment" function so I wouldn't look so much like a dweeb with two comments in a row when something else up and occurs to me.<br /><br />Here, I thought just for fun I'd look at my own cis-gender privilege in my first comment.<br /><br />"Like, I have this strong and immutable sense of being a woman, but not because I happen to have boobs. The possession of boobs, however, is one of the physical ways in which I experience being a woman and present myself as a woman to my community."<br /><br />Let's see what privilege is evident in this paragraph alone, and in my whole comment:<br /><br />- I can identify as a woman with confidence, because I don't expect having to defend or explain my identification, because it won't be attacked, questioned, pathologized or responded to with bewilderment;<br />- I can present myself as a woman to my community and expect to endure sexism (which sucks) but not sexism AND transphobia (which sucks twice as much);<br />- While my identity as a woman does not *depend* on having female sexual characteristics such as boobs, I get to enjoy having said boobs and other physical expression of my gender identity without having to undergo expensive and painful medical procedures;<br />- I can confidently criticize a trans-bigoted cis-female writer because doing so will not provoke attack or silencing simply on the grounds of my gender;<br /><br />Cat or others, anything you'd add to that list?Spatulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02341100471594319746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2086522799678977282.post-25383014343692349112009-09-15T00:36:05.981-04:002009-09-15T00:36:05.981-04:00"What, precisely, made me a girl anyway? Who ...<em>"What, precisely, made me a girl anyway? Who got to decide? How much did it matter?"</em><br /><br />Well, the things is, those are interesting questions! I say this because I started asking myself those questions after I made some F2F trans friends as well as from reading your blog. My identity as a woman was always such a given that I never thought about it much until then. <br /><br />It's her answers or her way of approaching them that are so stuuuuupid. <br /><br /><em>"How not having breasts or a womb or ovaries can make you question your femininity and your sense of yourself as female, as a woman."</em><br /><br />I can only speak for myself here, but it seems to me that it's possible to confuse *sources* of identity with the *expression* of that identity.<br /><br />Like, I have this strong and immutable sense of being a woman, but not because I happen to have boobs. The possession of boobs, however, is one of the physical ways in which I experience being a woman and present myself as a woman to my community.<br /><br />I think it's part of a larger philosophical thing wherein we are not our bodies, but our bodies are part of us. Part that we will eventually leave behind.<br /><br />Anyway, it was incredibly obnoxious of this chick to dismiss the experience of transgender women in this blase way where she was not even openly doing so as much as just leaking condescension like some kind of faulty radioactive waste facility. Especially this gem:<br />"So I began to fret: without breasts or hormone-producing ovaries, what would the difference be, say, between myself and a pre-op female-to-male transsexual?"<br /><br />Oh noes! You'll be just like ONE OF THE DAMNED! You poor thing! Lunch?Spatulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02341100471594319746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2086522799678977282.post-57326058132116231832009-09-14T16:13:30.978-04:002009-09-14T16:13:30.978-04:00Holy shit that's awful. I mean, wow. There&#...Holy shit that's awful. I mean, wow. There's not anything good in that. "<em>My</em> gender is innate and ineffable and intersex people's are probably, but trans? Oh, that's a <em>choice</em> and kind of an icky one 'cause knives and lady parts make me nervous." Fuck you too, thanks.<br /><br />On something happier: You're in Paris! That's so very. Do have lots of fun. :)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01032500776429683299noreply@blogger.com